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Hey all. 62 y/o guy here, currently 241 lbs, down from 286. I’m about

Started by S Y 24 replies 9 people Last activity Jun 29, 2026

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Apr 11, 2026 #1
Hey all. 62 y/o guy here, currently 241 lbs, down from 286. I’m about 30lbs from my target. Been on 5mg tirz for 5 months. Combined it with cjc/ipa at night to help protect muscle tissue. I track my food intake pretty closely. I have a year+ of tirz and cjc/ipa API in cold storage. I’ve been in a stall for a couple of months now. I’m not consistent at getting to the gym. Wondering if I should just stay the course, or make a shift to a different stack to finish the job, preparing to slide into maintenance. I’m retired, and nursing arthritic shoulder, hip, and knee. Not entering any bodybuilding competitions, so <10% body fat isn’t a goal. Just good health and energy to enjoy my remaining years. Thanks for any guidance y’all can provide me.
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Apr 14, 2026 #2
Throw in some kpv/bpc/tb for whatever hurts and hit the gym
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Apr 16, 2026 #3
Research about FOXO4 or NAD+ wouldn’t be too bad ig. Steven is right about his suggestions
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Apr 20, 2026 #4
Thanks. I’ve definitely struggled with the energy and motivation to hit the gym
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Apr 27, 2026 #5
I’ve never heard of FOX04. I have been thinking about NAD+, but still researching. With all of the chatter about reta, I was wondering if that might be a good next phase for me.
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Apr 29, 2026 #6
Ss-31/motc/nad+ could help with energy and some nootropics to give you that extra push to get at it
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May 6, 2026 #10
I was wondering about those… I need to look into nootropics
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May 22, 2026 #12
because the effects are so little, suggest to just use hgh low dose 2iu, works way better then that
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Jun 4, 2026 #14
I’d been on 5mg/wk since Dec 2025, and doing great. I’m in the camp of “Stay on the lowest dose possible”.
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Jun 6, 2026 #15
I still haven’t figured out what nootropics are here. Searches keep coming back with nasal sprays. 🤷🏽‍♂️
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Jun 9, 2026 #16
Is there a tab I’m not seeing? I don’t see anything there. I am on my phone, so maybe I’m missing it.
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Jun 16, 2026 #18
That’s fine. There’s no major imperative to increase while you’re still losing weight. But you’re far from Tirzapatide’s clinical potential and I believe stability has more benefits than changing what’s working to different compounds. It might help to keep in mind GLP-1 is a hormone, like insulin or testosterone. In this case, it’s the hormone primarily responsible for setting your body’s weight homeostasis point, the weight it wants you to maintain. Like a “weight thermostat”. If your weight is above that setting, appetite is suppressed, food noise quiets, digestion slows, etc. in other words, your physical and psychological biology will push you back down toward the setting. Once you get there those effects stop. That’s the maintenance point for a given dose. If you somehow gained weight again, the appetite suppression would reappear. Increasing the dose moves the thermostat lower. And once again biology pushes you down toward that weight, and when you reach it, appetite suppression stops. Given that 1: Doses of Tirz (Zepbound) go up to 15mg (and up to 25mg will soon be FDA approved) and 2: Higher doses increase the non-weight related health benefits, ie, lower systemic inflammation, lower cholesterol, better blood pressure control, better blood glucose control, protection of blood vessels, kidneys, the heart, nerves, blood brain barrier, less “leaky gut” etc. Personally I’d just increase the Tirz incrementally, and when weight plateaus, go up again, until you reach your goal weight. Thats how the maintainance dose is found in the ongoing clinical trials, and 99% of those people maintain that weight and all the other benefits for 4+ years so far. I think that’s more sensible than adding to or switching from a stack that’s worked well for you, introducing unknown risks. Just my two cents as a long term GLP user. Started Ozempic (Sema) 5 years ago, and switched to Zepbound (Tirz) 3 years ago.
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Jun 19, 2026 #19
Thank you so much for this! It’s exactly what I was looking for. My question was about all the hype surrounding Reta, and whether I was “missing out” on something that might help me by combining it with my tirz. I’m just staying the course, and will stay at 6mg for as long as possible. Might even try dropping back to 5 once I break my plateau. I don’t want to overshoot my goal weight and disappearing. 🤣
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Jun 24, 2026 #20
The short answer is, in your case, someone who’s already well down the path of losing weight, and using it “conventionally” as a weight loss treatment, no, you aren’t missing out on anything with Reta. Reta might actually set you back, requiring a much higher (and expensive) dose to match your current Tirz dose. The people that are sometimes better off with Reta: 1: NEW GLP users who are afraid of, or have had experience of the bad side effects that can occur when first starting. Reta has a gentler “on ramp”. (And Tirz is gentler than Sema). But you’re already beyond that point, and it’s obviously tolerable. 2: Bodybuilders, “bikini season”, and other intermittent users, generally not those suffering from obesity. Because they’re using it short term, and often trying to carve off the last bit of fat from an already lean body. Reta’s unique glucagon mechanism can help in those scenarios* but glucagon is not nearly as useful for general weight loss. Most of the weight loss “magic” is still in the GLP and GIP hormones. As a side note, for weird legal, not scientific reasons, Sema / Tirz / Reta peptides are limited in size to 39 amino acids making up their protein “chain”. Sema dedicates the whole chain to activating GLP, so it’s a very strong in terms of its GLP effects. Tirz has to split up the limited amino acids to GLP and GIP, so it’s weaker on GLP. Finally Reta has to divide those 39 amino acids into the 3 receptors it’s targeting, so they had to give up more on GLP to “fit” amino acids shaped to dock on Glucagon receptors. This is one reason you often hear Reta isn’t as strong at appetite suppression as Sema or Tirz. 3. People who are weak responders to Tirz, or not getting to their goal weight after reaching the max dose. The Glucagon mechanism of Reta may allow them to lose (more) weight in a way completely different from Tirz’s GLP/GIP mechanism. So non responders might respond strongly to the Glucagon mechanism, and those who’ve “maxed out” on Tirz but still need more weight loss, can benefit from the extra weight loss Glucagon agonism allows. *glucagon is sort of anti-insulin. When blood sugar rises, insulin is released to signal cells (mostly muscle and fat) to absorb glucose, and lower blood sugar. When blood sugar drops too low, glucagon is released to signal the liver to produce and release glucose, to make sure there’s enough energy for (mainly) the brain to keep working. This is an oversimplification, but the liver makes glucose using fat, starting with the fat that’s in the liver. Reta tells the liver to produce glucose even when you don’t need it. Energy often drops when people first start a GLP, caused by the calorie deficit. Sometimes a low level depression can occur. Reta avoids some of this, because the extra glucose release it forces via glucagon maintains higher energy levels, you tend to stay more active and burn more calories (and the fat to glucose conversion burns a few), so you feel better during that sometimes difficult to adjust to starting off period. But 1: You’re beyond this early GLP phase and your body has already adjusted to the initial shock of suddenly having lower calorie intake. 2: The easily accessible liver fat used to make glucose is already mostly gone. For people starting out, or intermittent users like bodybuilders, this reserve tends to be loaded up and quickly provides that extra energy during the startup phase. Tirz has already cleared most of your liver fat (more slowly, “naturally” as your calorie deficit leads to slightly low blood sugar, glucagon is released to make up for that occasionally low blood glucose). When the liver is clear of fat, and glucagon is telling it to make glucose, it gets the fat elsewhere, but that’s a lot slower than using its internal fat. So that particular Reta benefit, clearing liver fat, is diminished in the case of an existing Tirz user.
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