How much have people lost using reta

210 to 185 in 2 months not dieting just gym

Like 30kg easy peasy

Lost 20kg in like three months

Trying to find the best combo to help build muscle. I don’t have to use HGH if there’s something else in could do.

Peptides help build muscle but we are looking at minor boosts

Even a decent hgh protocol is only a minor boost

Help build muscle is a loose term. It’s a recovery aid at best. The part that builds muscle is the workouts and nutrition. To claim help build muscle would mean you can run it while doing nothing else and you’d build muscle. It’s just not true. Peptides are so minimal in the space of benefiting anyone. You have to have everything else spot on to see any benefits from most peptides. GLP1s are the biggest ones because on their own they actually show results as a weightloss aid but still require the person to actually make the effort to eat better and move more.

This is just absolute rubbish. You can't separate out recovery in terms of building muscle. If peptides help you with recovery, recovery is an integral part of building muscle, so they therefore help you build muscle. You're also way off with GLP-1s. When I started taking a GLP-1, you literally sit down, eat four spoonfuls of food, and feel so full you cannot eat anymore. It doesn't take any effort to feel full and therefore eat less, the GLP-1s just make it happen. The whole miracle of GLP-1s is they remove the need for effort and willpower in sticking to a diet that is going to cause you to lose weight.

Glad you missed my point. No peptide will directly build muscle. It’s not the peptide that builds it. So don’t mention it in the same sentence. Plenty of people stay fat on GLPs because they just keep eating shit and not moving.

Mate, you are mixing up "direct muscle growth with no other stimulus" and "muscle building." Those are not the same thing. By your definition then, protein doesn't help build muscle, sleep doesn't help build muscle, anabolics dont help build muscle because none of those, on their own without a training stimulus, build muscle. You can't sleep an extra two hours every night, do no training, and all of a sudden turn into a bodybuilder. I don't think anyone would argue that sleep and protein helps you build muscle though. You’re even further off on GLP-1s. The whole point is that they change appetite signalling. They reduce hunger, increase fullness, and slow gastric emptying. So the person is not just “trying harder.” The drug changes the internal drive to eat. That’s why the trials are so strong. With the same lifestyle advice, people on these drugs lose vastly more weight than placebo. Semaglutide was around 15% body-weight loss. Tirzepatide was around 15% to 21%. Some newer GLP-1/glucagon drugs have shown numbers around 24% in trials. Seen it in reverse too. People who stay on the drug keep losing or maintain weight. People switched to placebo regain a lot of it. No other changes in diet or lifestyle. Yes, some people can still out-eat a GLP-1. You can override almost any drug if you try hard enough. But using the worst responders to dismiss the drug effect is bad reasoning.

You have no idea what you’re talking about