There’s really no place for it besides the trash because they don’t do shit

injectable CoQ10 failed. looked good at first, then turned into a hard black tar

This is simply untrue. I am an avid user of Hgh, and all the secretagauges. They all have their uses, time, place, goals, expectations and results.

Anyone experience with thymosin alpha 1?

There is zero reason to use secrets over real GH

wth is that lol

coenzimeQ10. it's a mitochondrial anti-oxidant. usually supplemented orally but would be very strong as a pre workout injected

Can I use ampuwa for my gh

It's unfortunate that black and white responses like this are now the norm in this space when there is so much nuance, and each person, their goals, health, needs, and risks are totally different. It's repeated so much that everyone just assumes it to be true, when it just isn't. HGH is more powerful which comes with its own risk profiles. Secretagogues are more regulated and have a much milder risk profile for those who want to lower their risks. What is someone wants to keep their natural production? GH is only a single isoform vs the multi isoform your own body produces with some other smaller fragments and variants. What if someone is looking for a longevity lens and doesn't want a chronically elevated IGF nor do they not want a chroniclly elevated mTOR profile that puts them at risk for insulin resistance, tumor acceleration, and other aging issues? This is all dependent on dose, but can also be mitigated by the body as the secretagogues are way more regulated and are way less likely to push people into chronically elevated downstream levels of shit that maybe risky for them. There are so many more differences between the two that are dependent on the person, their goals, history, health, etc. To paint one or the other as the only valuable route would be unfair from either one of us

What’s the point of an average person using it

also it's cardio-protective. most people use it for that

It’s not black and white it’s just the truth dude… I’ve done tons and tons of research on GH. If you’re going to use a GH secretagauge you might as well just use real GH. You’re seeking the same benefits that GH would give you but at what cost? The results don’t even come close to the real deal. 1-2iu is a healthy protocol and most HRT doses are in that range. There’s no reason to be afraid of real HGH if you’re willing to put un regulated secretagauges in your body lol. They aren’t by any means “safer”

I will never understand why people refuse to use sterile technique

I’ve used TA1 during chemo the last few months after convincing my doctor. Loved it while my immune system is crashed. I didn’t get sick this winter while my kids did. It’s not for long term use.

"Because me and my buddy Trev have been doing it this way for years with no problems" or something like that. 🤷

Im sick currently, and my coach advised me to take it with 6000mg vit c. But my cold usually lasts 5/7 days

those who are prone to insulin resistance and its symptoms such as acanthosis nigricans, skin tags, chronic high FBG, carpal tunnel, water retention, gyno, are all reasons some prefer secretagogues. Of course HGH is does it all but it does have the most sides. It’s simply ignorant to suggest “oh just take HGH bro it’s better bro”

no it all hapened 2 hours after I made it, I think I got it to too high of a concentration and after cooling down it crashed and crystalized. I heated it a bit to get it to dissolve, so I think once it went back to room temp the DMSO and the MCT oil split and it left an excessive amount of CoQ10 in the MCT oil (more than it is possible to dissolve in MCT oil alone) and it crashed. I tried to re-heat it to warm it up but nothing, remained a blob. I will try to re-make it using ethanol instead of DMSO and doing 50/50 ethanol and mct oil (instead of this 80/20 mct oil and dmso) and doing a lower concentration of 50mg/ml instead of 80mg/ml

I am at 2iu and at 480 igf. This isn’t the solution unfortunately